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-====== Experience & Training ======
+====== Experience (& Training) ======
 This page lists a short analysis and two proposals. These proposals are listed on the same page for convenience; they can each be evaluated and accepted/rejected on their own.
-The [[#Experience Cost Review]] proposal is an attempt to fix the awkward experience cost curves of Abilities and Attributes. This proposal is largely based on new insights gained after a year a play.
+The [[#Experience Cost Review]] proposal is an attempt to fix the awkward experience cost curves of Abilities and Attributes. This proposal is largely based on new insights gained after a year a play. -> This proposal has been accepted and is now a [[rules:experience costs|house rule]].
-The [[#Advanced Training]] proposal is an attempt to add the option for characters to train specific activities, and to increase their competence in these activities.
+The [[#Advanced Training]] proposal is an attempt to add the option for characters to train specific activities, and to increase their competence in these activities. -> This proposal has been accepted and is now part of the book as an optional rule [[book>advanced-training.html|Advanced Training]].
 ===== Experience Cost Review =====
-//See also the [[book>traits.html#experience-cost|Experience Costs]] in the book.//
+//This proposal has been accepted and is now a [[rules:experience costs|house rule]].//
-> Brend's Note: I am not very happy with the below table, as something feels "off" about it. I have placed it here so we can discuss and alternative proposals can be made.
+This proposal did not include a review of the starting requirements, but logic dictates that the old starting requirements as noted in the book are not in line with the (relatively) increased cost of low-rating dots for Attributes and Abilities. As such, new starting requirements will have to be determined at a later point in time.
-The following table is a proposed new experience cost table, where Abilities and Attributes have been given constant experience costs, to better match their expected value increase. As these experience costs are changed, there are some other costs that might also require changing. Traits marked with :?: are unclear on how they should be converted. Suggestions are obviously welcome.
+The following notes are kept here for posterity:
-^ Trait                  ^  Cost                      ^
-| New Ability†           |  6                         |
-| New Favoured Ability†  |  5                         |
-| Ability                |  5                         |
-| Favoured Ability       |  4                         |
-| Specialty†             |  New Rating x 2            |
-| Discipline†            |  8                         |
-| Bloodline Discipline†  |  7                         |
-| Attribute              |  12                        |
-| Virtue :?:             |  Current Rating x 2        |
-| Willpower :?:          |  Current Rating            |
-| New Background‡:?:     |  3                         |
-| Background‡:?:         |  (Current Rating x 2)      |
-| Ritual†‡               |  Varies                    |
-† These Traits usually require training and tutoring. Either for the first dot, or for subsequent increases. Consult your storyteller if necessary.
-‡ Usually requires roleplaying
 **Notes:**
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-===== Advanced Training =====
-Advanced Training is training in an activity falling under a specific Ability (with the same scope as a Specialty, though usually more oriented towards activities than circumstances).
-There are three ranks of Advanced Traininig:
-  * :1/3: This rank gives a -1 difficulty on all rolls to which the advanced training applies.
-  * :2/3: This rank negates 1 point of increased difficulty due to any kind environmental circumstances
-  * :3/3: This rank negates an additional 1 point of increased difficulty due to any kind environmental circumstances
-"Environmental circumstances" includes weather, temperature, crowds, and such. It also covers "passive" opposition in the form of increased patrols and alertness, but it does not cover targeted opposition such as powers that increase the difficulty directly, or people directly intervening in your activities. If an opposed roll is called for—and most active opposition by people is modelled as an opposed roll—the difficulty modifiers can be applied to your roll as normal.
-E.g. the negation of difficulty increase does cover a getaway driver's roll when "the police are on high alert". However, it does not cover your action to "talk the senator into supporting Bill #442" when a lobbyist is actively attempting to keep you away from the senator. Not the focus here is on "you", if the lobbyist attempts to keep everyone away from the senator such a difficulty increase would be covered.
-Together, these levels can make activities that are normally out of reach for normal people possible. For example, performing a bootleg turn while being chased at high speed during a heavy storm. This normally incurs at least a +2 difficulty, making the chances of success slim indeed. However, with full advanced training, the character can ignore the first two points of increased difficulty and reduce the overall difficulty by 1, placing the manevure in the realm of the possible.
-**Experience cost:**
-  * Rank :1/3:: 12xp
-  * Rank :2/3:: 8xp
-  * Rank :3/3:: 8xp
-=== Table of expected values ===
-This table lists the expected roll value parameterised on dice pool size and difficulty.
-^  Pool  ^  Diff 5  ^  Diff 6  ^  Diff 7  ^  Diff 8  ^  Diff 9  ^  Diff 10  ^
-^  1   |  0.6  |  0.5  |  0.4  |  0.3  |  0.2  |  0.1  |
-^  2   |  1.2  |  1.0  |  0.8  |  0.6  |  0.4  |  0.2  |
-^  3   |  1.8  |  1.5  |  1.2  |  0.9  |  0.6  |  0.3  |
-^  4   |  2.4  |  2.0  |  1.6  |  1.2  |  0.8  |  0.4  |
-^  5   |  3.0  |  2.5  |  2.0  |  1.5  |  1.0  |  0.5  |
-^  6   |  3.6  |  3.0  |  2.4  |  1.8  |  1.2  |  0.6  |
-^  7   |  4.2  |  3.5  |  2.8  |  2.1  |  1.4  |  0.7  |
-^  8   |  4.8  |  4.0  |  3.2  |  2.4  |  1.6  |  0.8  |
-^  9   |  5.4  |  4.5  |  3.6  |  2.7  |  1.8  |  0.9  |
-^  10  |  6.0  |  5.0  |  4.0  |  3.0  |  2.0  |  1.0  |

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